Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/25/1997 01:32 PM Senate TRA

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              SB 125 AIRPORT DUTY-FREE CONCESSIONS                            
                                                                              
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  called the Senate Transportation Committee meeting to         
 order at 1:32 p.m. and introduced  SB 125  as the only order of               
 business before the committee.                                                
                                                                               
  LYDIA JONES , Staff to Senator Ward, read the following sponsor              
 statement.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SB 125 is a rather simple and straight forward bill designed to               
 give DOT/PF the flexibility, should it be deemed to be in the                 
 state's interest, to extend the term of the duty free concession at           
 the Anchorage International Airport.  This legislation does not               
 require nor mandate DOT/PF to take any action whatsoever; rather,             
 it simply provides the tools and flexibility that may be necessary            
 to maintain or improve the competitive position of the airport in             
 the marketplace.                                                              
                                                                               
 Anchorage International Airport's duty free/general merchandise               
 concession at one time generated revenues in excess of $100 million           
 and fees to the state approaching $19 million annually.                       
 Unfortunately, because of the opening of Soviet air space and a new           
 generation of long-haul jets, the market has drastically declined             
 and with it the revenues and subsequent fees to the state.                    
                                                                               
 Now, for the good news.  The incumbent concessionaire, a group of             
 Alaskans known as the David Green Group, have almost doubled                  
 revenues in their first year and are equally optimistic in their              
 second year of operations.                                                    
                                                                               
 Ms. Jones noted that Deputy Commissioner Kurt Parkan has no                   
 opposition to this legislation.                                               
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  recalled that the David Green Group was the largest          
 retailer in Anchorage at one time and Fairbanks spun off money for            
 the Fairbanks airport because of that concession.  Do all those               
 rules still apply?                                                            
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  stated that the airports are still interlocking.  The         
 Anchorage International Airport does help fund the Fairbanks                  
 International Airport.  All revenues would offset revenues to free            
 revenues to Fairbanks.  That cannot be corrected in SB 125.  In               
 further response to Senator Wilken, Chairman Ward said that there             
 was no change in the contract requirements.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 074                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN  hoped that items sold at the international airport          
 would be Made In Alaska items.                                                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  said that was a point well taken.  He noted that              
 representatives from the David Green Group (DGG) were on line.                
                                                                               
  PAUL REED , David Green Group, commented that DGG does have an               
 extensive line of Alaskana products marketed at the shop.  Mr. Reed           
 shared Senator Lincoln's concern because DGG is Alaskan.  Mr. Reed            
 stated that DGG wants to ensure that the shop remains competitive             
 on an international basis which has lead to the need for SB 125.              
 Mr. Reed did not see any down side to this proposal.                          
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  noted that Elizabeth Hickerson and Ross Kopperud are          
 on line for questions.                                                        
  SENATOR LINCOLN  asked if this would be a competitive bid or would           
 it automatically be awarded to the David Green Group.   If it will            
 not be a competitive bid, at what point will it go to competitive             
 bid?                                                                          
                                                                               
  PAUL REED  explained that DGG has an existing contract.  The intent          
 is to expand business to meet the international competition.                  
 Anchorage is in between the market/destination which necessitates             
 competitiveness.  Mr. Reed noted that an investment cannot be                 
 amortized over a short amount of time; DGG will only have about two           
 years left.  Mr. Reed pointed out that there was a competitive bid            
 for the first three bids, nobody bid on the contract.  Mr. Reed was           
 able to assemble an investment group of Alaskans that bid on the              
 contract which was secured on the fourth bid.  With regards to the            
 length, Mr. Reed said that would be left to DOT to decide what was            
 in the best interest of the state.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 158                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  referred to the graphs included in the packet which          
 illustrate that transit passengers have declined more than half               
 while the gross revenues have decreased by about one-fifth.  Why              
 would those two areas not experience the same level of decline?               
 With regards to Chart C, the concessions fees paid to the state               
 have decreased by one-tenth since 1.6 million passengers.  There              
 again, why would there be a decrease of one-fifth of gross revenues           
 and a decrease of one-tenth in the concessions fees to the state?             
                                                                               
  PAUL REED  said that those questions relate to what DGG is                   
 attempting to accomplish.  When revenues dropped, most of the major           
 vendors dropped out and discontinued supplying the Anchorage                  
 International Airport or the current concessionaire, Duty Free                
 Shoppers.  During that time, spending dropped dramatically and                
 Anchorage International Airport was no longer competitive with the            
 international market.  Mr. Reed pointed out that Duty Free Shoppers           
 felt that they could receive the revenue at one end or the other if           
 not in Anchorage.  DGG recognized that the airport must be improved           
 in order to attract vendors.  The only success has been with                  
 Burberry, a fashion rain gear vendor.  Other vendors have indicated           
 that until the environment is improved, they will not return.  All            
 of that relates to the decreases illustrated in the charts.  Mr.              
 Reed noted that Japanese passengers, who spent more, were replaced            
 with Korean, Chinese, and Taiwanese passengers.  DGG has developed            
 a market with products that appeal to these new groups of                     
 passengers.                                                                   
                                                                               
 With regard to the concessions fees paid, DGG has a contract with             
 a minimum guarantee with a percentage of rent.  DGG began paying at           
 12 percent and will be at about 17 percent at the end of this                 
 month.  As DGG's revenues increase so do the revenues to the state.           
 Mr. Reed believed that Alaska is receiving more from this contract            
 than DGG.                                                                     
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  informed the committee that Deputy Commissioner Kurt          
 Parkan and Director Morton Plumb have joined the teleconference.              
 He asked if anyone would like to testify.                                     
                                                                               
  KURT PARKAN , Deputy Commissioner of DOT, said that he was available         
 to answer questions.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 244                                                                    
                                                                               
  LYNN KLASSERT , General Manager for the David Green Group, mentioned         
 that in the past the Anchorage International Airport benefitted               
 from the additional traffic and had a competitive edge.  DOT was              
 advised that those good years would not be a long standing trend,             
 but no one listened.  The David Green Group has been able to come             
 in and focus on the remaining market and identify the products                
 being sought by the customers.  However, the vendor community will            
 not supply DGG unless the store is renovated.  The aforementioned             
 graphs illustrate the upswing trend.  Mr. Klassert stated that                
 flexibility is being requested for the renovations.  The                      
 competition is gearing up to put in bigger facilities because of              
 the trend of more purchasing at airports.  If Alaska does not do              
 the same, market share will be lost.  Mr. Klassert did not want to            
 see a repeat of the past.                                                     
                                                                               
 Mr. Klassert informed the committee that he was the controller for            
 Duty Free Shoppers from 1981 through 1992 which afforded him                  
 knowledge of the history of the airport.  Mr. Klassert emphasized             
 that with any business, unless an investment is made there will not           
 be growth.  SB 125 provides an opportunity for the airport to work            
 with DGG to grow.                                                             
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  noted that DGG has three years left in the existing          
 contract.  The language speaks to the fact that the department may            
 extend a contractor for the sale and delivery.  If SB 125 passes,             
 what happens three years from now?                                            
                                                                               
  KURT PARKAN  specified that the contract would be up in the year             
 2000.  Mr. Parkan was unsure to the extent which SB 125 would be              
 able to address the extension of the existing contract.                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  understood the bill to say that within the next 36           
 months, DGG will request another contract from the department.  The           
 department would extend the contract as under SB 125, if determined           
 in the best interest of the airport and the contractor.  When is              
 someone else afforded the opportunity?  Senator Wilken believed               
 that this could be rolled for 10 years and no one would have the              
 benefit of the free market to test the validity and productivity of           
 the lease.                                                                    
                                                                               
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  KURT PARKAN  agreed with Senator Wilken.  The intent of SB 125 is to         
 allow the department to make some best interest determinations to             
 extend a contract.  Mr. Parkan was unclear as to how that relates             
 specifically to DGG.  That there is a belief that because the                 
 contract is in place now, the change of term would be a material              
 change.  Mr. Parkan seemed to think there was a problem with a                
 material change to an existing contract.                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  asked if SB 125 addressed one 40 month extension             
 beyond the end of the current extension.   KURT PARKAN  believed that         
 SB 125 allows the department in statute to extend a concession                
 contract if determined to be in the best interest of the state.               
 Currently, the department has the ability to place a clause                   
 allowing for an extension.  SB 125 states that specifically in                
 statute.                                                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  posed the following situation that the DGG could, 10         
 years from now, ask for an extension and the department would                 
 decide whether to grant that extension depending upon the market.             
 When is there opportunity for another vendor to bid on the                    
 contract?   KURT PARKAN  explained that the state could determine it          
 in the best interest of the state and the airport to have a                   
 competitive bid.  SB 125 provides some flexibility that the airport           
 can use in determining whether to make an extension or not.  In               
 further response to Senator Wilken, Mr. Parkan agreed that an                 
 expression of interest to bid on the concessions from another party           
 at the next time the contract is available would be an impetus for            
 a competitive bid.                                                            
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  suggested adding an (h) provision in Section 1 which         
 speaks to what the department would utilize in considering whether            
 to open for bid or continue the current contract.  There are                  
 probably five or six major components which could be used to decide           
 the best interest of the state balanced with the interests of the             
 current concessionaire.                                                       
                                                                               
  MORTON PLUMB , Director of the Anchorage International Airport,              
 commented that Mr. Parkan's comments reflected his views as well as           
 his staff's views.                                                            
                                                                               
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  SENATOR LINCOLN  said that the language is vague.  Senator Lincoln           
 understood that DGG has a contract to the year 2000 and under SB
 125 would allow a 40 month extension beyond the year 2000.  Is that           
 correct?   PAUL REED  said that he was not sure that 40 months would          
 be necessary.  It will take a certain number of months to amortize            
 this contract.  Mr. Reed clarified that an open ended time is not             
 being requested because without a competitive bid process DGG would           
 not have received the contract in the beginning.  DGG is willing to           
 invest money in the contract for expansion, but Mr. Reed pointed              
 out that it would take a year to build the expansion which leaves             
 only two years in the contract.  DGG would not be able to get its             
 money back in that two years by amortization.  Mr. Reed emphasized            
 that DGG is attempting to make the airport more interesting for               
 other bidders besides DGG.                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN  said that DGG views SB 125 as extending the                 
 contract for 40 more months beyond the remaining three years.  PAUL           
 REED  agreed with Senator Lincoln's assessment.   SENATOR LINCOLN             
 inquired as to the reasoning behind 40 months.     LYNN KLASSERT              
 explained that based on IRS rules and the amount going into the               
 extension, to receive a return on that investment requires three              
 and a half years minimum.  Although DGG has three years left in the           
 contract, that gives DGG about six and a half years to receive that           
 return.  The IRS rules specify about seven years to amortize an               
 investment.  The six months was requested so that the contract                
 would not terminate during the summer, the busiest period for the             
 location.                                                                     
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN  asked if the expansion would occur with the                 
 existing facility or by increasing the floor space.   LYNN KLASSERT           
 informed the committee that when DGG opened the space in 1995, the            
 space was almost doubled from that of the previous concessionaire.            
 Mr. Klassert stated that DGG has acquired 3,000 square feet on the            
 west end of the main store, but the investment has not come                   
 together yet.   SENATOR LINCOLN  noted that when she was at the               
 Anchorage International Airport she had a difficult time finding a            
 chair.  The area and the shop was packed.   LYNN KLASSERT  noted that         
 the bulk of the business occurs between 12:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m.              
 Mr. Klassert agreed that the area is constrained.  The plan is                
 geared around the growing commodities in the world market which are           
 fragrances and cosmetics; the space for that area is to be tripled.           
 Other products such as apparel and leather goods are growing                  
 commodities.  Mr. Klassert noted that renovations for Alaskana                
 products are planned.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 467                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR LINCOLN  proposed the following amendment:  line 6, after            
 "contract" insert "for up to 40 months".  Senator Lincoln offered             
 Amendment 1.                                                                  
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  was concerned about specifying the 40 months.                
 Perhaps, there may be a time when a contract longer than 40 months            
 is desired depending upon the best interest of the state.  Senator            
 Wilken said that he would like to offer an amendment regarding the            
 definition of the best interest of the state.                                 
                                                                               
  KURT PARKAN  said that there was no problem with the 40 months,              
 although it does seem to be a bit arbitrary and takes away some of            
 the flexibility of the airport.                                               
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  objected to Amendment 1 because the purpose is to             
 provide flexibility to the airport with safeguards.  This bill                
 ensures that contract extension is in the best interest of the                
 state.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Upon a roll call vote, Senators Ward, Wilken, and Green voted "Nay"           
 and Senator Lincoln voted "Yea", therefore Amendment 1 failed to be           
 adopted.                                                                      
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  offered Amendment 2 which would create subsection            
 (h) defining the best interest of the state.  Senator Wilken                  
 identified the following as important benchmarks: the revenue given           
 to the state from the sale of goods, the revenue given to the state           
 with regards to lease payments, the customer service record, and              
 the current lease amount as compared to existing commercial airport           
 leases.                                                                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  objected and asked if the amendment would identify            
 the best interest of the state in conjunction with the airport.               
  SENATOR WILKEN  agreed that the motion was to add a subsection (h)           
 defining the best interest of the state.                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WARD  withdrew his objection.                                       
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  mentioned that those on line were welcome to be              
 involved in determining the benchmarks.                                       
                                                                               
  LYNN KLASSERT  said that he agreed with Senator Wilken's proposal.           
 The term of 40 months is not as important, the term is whatever the           
 airport believes to be in the best interest of the operator and the           
 airport itself.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 537                                                                    
                                                                               
 Upon hearing no objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR WILKEN  moved to report CSSB 125(TRA) out of committee with          
 individual recommendations and accompanying zero fiscal note.                 
 Without objection, it was so ordered.                                         
                                                                               
 There being no further business before the committee, the meeting             
 was adjourned at 2:12 p.m.                                                    

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